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23-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Here's a job I looked at today. I have to price for the jointing only. A large green oak house in which the client wants the boards painted before fixing so that he doesn't have to cut in to the oak frame. These board have to be slotted in between the oak and the timber frame, in all sorts of quirky areas of all shapes. A lot of it is double height too. In my experience, most joint compounds will develop pin holes when applied over paint. I was thinking about using Easifill as that is used a lot in remedial work, over the top of paint, and i've always considered it a pretty stable product. What say you guys?

23-03-2010, 09:02 PM
Is the oak not going to be varnished, if so get that done first, few coats then paint into it and wipe off.
I would have thought the screw holes and joints are still going to need a good 3 coats of paint to avoid flashing, so I think it would be a waste of time.
Also, the sheets once painted are going to get dirty marks all over them when applied.
Its a non starter for me or a daily rate job.

23-03-2010, 09:25 PM
I don't think the oak is being treated at all. I tried to explain to the client about flashing but he's adamant it's going to be done that way. I'm going to price it good. It'll be one for the portfolio.

Captain perfect
23-03-2010, 09:56 PM
Hi tony

We had one pretty much the same, Customer not barn!

We wrapped all the exposed timbers with the cling film carpet protector,

we left it on till job was sanded & painted, worked a treat .

23-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Sounds like an ideas in action project.
I would love to see how he's going to paint all the boards with a few coats of emulsion first.
Right stand that sheet up against a wall and roll it.
Thats the first one done, now where will I put these other 200 painted boards :D
Or roll one on the pallet and start a new pile, roll next one and stick it to it.
There will be a way no doubt !
Keep us posted on that one

24-03-2010, 08:08 AM
hey maaan,
what about the knauf or alltek ready mix products, the say you can go directly over painted surfaces,
and maybe your client could look at Lafarge mega deco boards, they are pre finished and and the joint compound is designed to be very close in colour to the boards, they are suposed to help with minimum finishing.

I cant see him not painting at the end if he has visible joints and spots on the wall, but he's the boss. make sure you are clear with him what YOU expect the finish to look like because half baked quims like this are usually spoilt tossers who have to be shown they are wrong and then will make your life hell by saying its your fault.

mik mpd
24-03-2010, 04:31 PM
I think this guys wasting his time painting first, he'll soon realise once you've got it all taped up! Surely he could cough up for a decent painter that can cut into the beams without any difficulty. We used usg's prospray a couple of years ago in some large barn conversions that were going to be offices, there were loads of big oak beams and had nightmares masking up. It looked good in the end and any bits of overspray came off easy enough with a wire brush and sandpaper. Best of luck with it!!!

27-03-2010, 03:30 PM
Spoke to BG and Easifill it is, plus drywall sealer. Given the chap a price so it's up to him now. Appx 350 square mtrs of board and 50 mtrs of bead.

30-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Heard nothing until Wednesday of this week and now the job's mine. Thought it would have been long finished by now.

13-06-2010, 07:38 PM
Actually finished the week before last, but the customer liked the finish of the Lafarge sealer so much, he requested that I give it all another coat to be the finish coat. Likes the softness and whiteness of it.
Been in yesterday and today coating it up. Before anybody chips in, I contacted Lafarge technical and they said they can see no reason why it can be used as a finish, as I was concerned it might go chalky after a while. Anyway, here's the result.





The job took a few days longer than i'd hoped but it was always going to be a tricky one.

14-06-2010, 08:43 AM
Nice work Mr M :fing02:

E.K Taper
14-06-2010, 08:45 AM
Nice one Tony.
Is this the same job you posted pics of the other week?

14-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Nice one Tony.
Is this the same job you posted pics of the other week?

Yes, the pictures at the top of this thread.