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jimbo1873
09-04-2010, 06:34 PM
Hi everyone could do with some help with my pricing of jobs don't feel i'm doing it right working for 3.05m2 and 3.05per m metal tape but what counts as extra's spent six hours on my new job boxing out joints the ceilings are 3.2metres high no coving and the whole top floor has calmed ceilings that are taking me forever would be gratefull for any help cheers :confused:

Deck
09-04-2010, 07:51 PM
Ouch, sounds a sore one. We tend to give a flat rate per square meter including metals, but this is either on having a look at the job or getting sight of the drawings. I take it that you mean coombed ceilings in which case are a pisser if they are not "true" any way and again more awkward if they are at the height you mentioned.

amestaper
09-04-2010, 08:03 PM
Are you supplying materials? I remember when you said you had got this job at 3.05 m2. If you had mentioned it involved 3.2 metre high ceilings with no coving and calmed (coomed or sloped??) ceilings I would have told you to hang on and add a percentage for any meterage over 2.4 metres high.

I know I could make money at those rates, especially on the corners but the ceilings and cooms will hold you back. If you had agreed those rates with me, I would expect you to have seen the job (at least some plans), measured it yourself, do them for that price and wouldnt pay you anything over and above the agreed rates.

Shit sheeting, changes to plan and screws sticking out count as extras.

If you've been in steady work since the last time you posted here, then you arent doing too badly because there are many guys worse off than you are. If theres follow on work for you, my advice would be to get the job done then move on to the next site. The contractor who pays your wages may also see this as you having spat the dummy if you have been OK while making the cream on the bog standard regular type rooms and flying through the meterage, but getting stroppy about doing the shite stuff as well.

Sorry if this isnt what you wanted to hear mate.

jimbo1873
09-04-2010, 08:28 PM
alright the guy i'm working for just wants the job done at the prices i gave him but he know's i did not see the job and is happy too talk about extra's as we talked about this on a previous job coombed ceilings up stairs are 2metres high its down stairs that are 3.2metres will take pictures tomorrow and post them - the thing is this guy-s good for work so don't want too take the piss but on the other hand don't want the piss taken out of me so trying to work out what i should put as extra's as his company has been running for years and he know's what should and shouldn't be.
:confused:

amestaper
09-04-2010, 08:38 PM
If he's happy to talk then he's given you a green light. Profit margins are tight at the moment and you will be eating into his. You know the guy, so will know how far you can push him.
but be careful and remember that if you wont do the job - someone else will.

Anything over 2.6m high is murder for me :mad: and any scaffold work is charged at an hourly rate.

Have you got stilts? They could solve your problem.

jimbo1873
09-04-2010, 09:05 PM
You talk about adding percentage for any meterage over 2.4 meters high.sounds a very fair way to do things how do you do this as i think this could sort out my pricing problems as i could use it for coombed ceilings as well as high ceilings:confused:

amestaper
09-04-2010, 09:17 PM
Coomed ceilings at regular workable heights are regular sq meterage rates. If the internal angles dont run in a straight line then I add a linear meterage to straighten them.

For working at a 3.2 metre height in your case I would add

3.05
+ 25%
------
3.81 per m2 and linear metre.

How does that sound now?

Like I've already said, if you've been paid well up to now and have been making 2 grand a week on normal sized site work you may find your guy gets a bit pissed off with your request now you have run into a few difficulties so take care

You also didnt answer my question about stilts.

jimbo1873
09-04-2010, 09:39 PM
Cheers can't make 2grand a week too slow and the work i have been getting is always a bit tricky never normal jobs as for stilts nerver tried them how do you find them as would be up for trying them