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matt
09-08-2010, 04:31 PM
I have two angle heads and use the bigger one (3.5") first to bed the tapes then angle box with the smaller(2.5") but I seen guys last week who do the opposite. Just wondered what you guys prefer going with.

christaper22
09-08-2010, 05:02 PM
I use a 3"for both but im sure if i had a smaller one id bed the tapes on with that. I cant imagine using my 12" box first and then final coating with the 10".

Brian S
09-08-2010, 06:03 PM
The reason to use the bigger one first is that when you do the 2nd coat you don't pick up any rubbish from the first coat.

christaper22
09-08-2010, 06:14 PM
ah, i see. didnt think of it like that but on the other hand you will have 2 edges to sand instead of one.

Brian S
09-08-2010, 07:00 PM
No still only one edge, the other "edge" will be layered with the first coat, whereas smaller head first you will have a "ridge" in the middle of the second coat.

Try it though, you may find it suits you better with the smaller head first

matt
09-08-2010, 07:21 PM
I was thinking about the first coat drying for an extra amount of time and being more coarse to sand, this would be the bigger head first. I thought maybe it would be easier to sand if small head used first then larger head over the top and sand following day or so.
Need to try it.

E.K Taper
09-08-2010, 08:10 PM
The reason to use the bigger one first is that when you do the 2nd coat you don't pick up any rubbish from the first coat.

Spot on, mate. The 2.5" angle head runs better on top of the larger 1st coat too. I only got the 3" angle head now and it does leave a bit of a thick edge for sanding when itsbeen double coated with the same angle head

DMS
09-08-2010, 09:17 PM
the heads are designed to go smaller than larger for the reason of feathering your edges (and avoiding picking up crap) it is counter intuitive, but when finishing angles you are only trying to hide the tape not fill a gap so 3"/ 3 1/2" first followed by a 2/ 2 1/2" is ideal and will actually lessen the amount of sanding you do.

Brian S
09-08-2010, 09:37 PM
E K
You got a corner box?
Get the BTE direct flusher, 60? remove the plate covering the hole in the middle.
They work fine on the box, less maintiainance,

belmoreboy
10-08-2010, 10:27 AM
As Brian says BTE direct flusher makes cheaper alternative, although Columbia now have tube available that fits your Angle head which is sweet bit of kit.

E.K Taper
11-08-2010, 11:21 PM
E K
You got a corner box?
Get the BTE direct flusher, 60? remove the plate covering the hole in the middle.
They work fine on the box, less maintiainance,

cheers Brian, I'll try it out!:fing02:

2buck
08-09-2010, 04:39 AM
CON"S of the can am/bte ---flusher/wiper,,,using compound tube applicator
-they wear out fast (about thirty houses,6 -9 months service)
- a BIT more sanding(when they start to wear out)
- slower production
-leave a rounder point in angle(sponge in point,if u want)
PRO'S
-inexpensive tool
-can adjust mud flow(move runners up,less mud)
-can file them down to get longer service out of them(2 years)
-user friendly,easy to learn
-no body pain (using tube/ applicator,then wiper on handle)
-extremely easy to do high work (easy on body)
-closets easy to do
-do 3 ways with wiper(some call it pulling,polishing the ends(that ones a secret)
-you can use thicker mud
MECHANICAL HEAD PRO'S
-does a really a nice job
-fast production........in big open areas
-can use a mud runner
-less sanding
-blades replacable
-longer service life (sorta)
CON'S using angle box and mechanical head
-expensive (it's called rape)
-blades can break or get nicked
-new blades almost the same price as a can am/bte wiper
-high maintenance (labour wise,adjusting blades,cleaning etc..)
-do not drop on concrete floor
-they will NOT last you a life time
-your name has to be HE-MAN on high stuff and closets
-kills your body (pain)
-not user friendly when learning to use
FOOT NOTE
dont know nothing on mud runner so.....BUT compound tube with a flusher on it ,,well......puts way way too much mud on,angles take forever to dry,too much sanding,could go on......
also mechanical heads meant to run big then small,but you can change it up (personal preference really)just never use under a 21/2" head if you use it first(small to big)
-I personally go bazooka,roller,21/2" mechanical,then with compound tube,angle applicator,with 31/2" bte/can am on wiping handle ,I flush/glaze