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coastaldrywall
18-10-2010, 06:04 PM
just interested on what we all use when jointing as im sure we all do it a little different

mine is this

big jumbo walls or exterior walls in shops that will have fixtures in front = scrim plus easy fill ,via ten inch first coat and 12 inch second coat, skim beads on externals,power sand, but you need to get a wiggle on to keep the easy fill going through the pump

new build houses and flats, scrim plus i coat filler by hand and two cement one 10 0ne 12 inch, and skim beads on externals,

cement of choice is wondertex, knocks up great and sands well

if i was jointing 100% of the time i would do things a little different as i would invest in a bazooka, and some corner tools

must admit when im two coating with easi fill it seems im cheating a bit, when you machine guys are running around putting three coats on


whats your way?

TonyM
18-10-2010, 06:52 PM
Normal house. Scrim and Easifill or Joint filler to butt joints on ceilings and wall joints. Drop back and coat up ceiling tapered joints when butts are dry to eliminate having to blend in. All by hand. 2nd & 3rd coats by 10" & 12" box with cement. Butt joints get double width on 10" box for 2nd coat and 3rd coat is 12" box over crown of joint only. Internals 2 coats cement, 1 to put tape in and use rol-plow to flush and 1 to finish with 2 1/2" Northstar head. USG tape on beads covered with one coat filler or Easifill and one coat cement. Only use British Gypsum products.
Small jobs of a couple of rooms will get either 2 coats Easifill, or if boarding nothing special, 2 Easifill and a cement to finish.
Commercial jobs, 3 coats again.

Goodmanatee
19-10-2010, 09:29 AM
Same as Tony. But don't do butts the same as Tony, treat them the same as tapered joints.

JON RAMBO
19-10-2010, 08:39 PM
somebody shoot me please!

Dobietaper
19-10-2010, 08:54 PM
scrim on all flat joints with fastset next all flex tape after that internals (1 coat) then 10" and 12" flat joints and 2 coats on metals then final coat on internals

TonyM
19-10-2010, 09:08 PM
somebody shoot me please!

Why?

JON RAMBO
20-10-2010, 09:06 PM
Why?

they will be asking what radio station do you listen to next what underpants do you wear etc

E.K Taper
21-10-2010, 12:37 AM
they will be asking what radio station do you listen to next what underpants do you wear etc

Its what the forums about, Jon, picking up tips here and there to help each other out to make more money,etc. PS i listen to radio clyde, real radio or Galaxy. And wear clean boxers every day. Over to you........!

JON RAMBO
21-10-2010, 07:59 PM
Its what the forums about, Jon, picking up tips here and there to help each other out to make more money,etc. PS i listen to radio clyde, real radio or Galaxy. And wear clean boxers every day. Over to you........!
im all for tips and advice but when people ask what number do you box on how do you clean boxes out etc then you shouldnt be taping lets have some proper questions like has anyone tried the new bg flex? ps radio1 in the morning galaxy in the afternoon, save on washing and wear the same pair of pants all week just turn them inside out fast-set starts to rub on your balls after a while though. over to you........!

crack filler
21-10-2010, 09:23 PM
radio one all day no pants

prjwebb
21-10-2010, 09:27 PM
Does anyone use the Knauf plastic external tape rather than the paper/metal stuff? How about scrim versus paper tapes for interals?
I much prefer the Knauf external stuff, it's just bloody expensive compared to the metal edge stuff. If I've got a job with a bit of room in the price I use the Knauf stuff. I also think scrim provides better long term results for internals. No chance of fluffing, bubbling or lifting. I do them by hand though, so it's not really going to compete with machining them for speed.

Goodmanatee
21-10-2010, 09:54 PM
Got to be paper for internals, fibre for flats !
Radio 2 on early, followed by absolute radio.
I'm with E.K, clean boxers every day
Same trousers or shorts all week( got to keep them clean.)
An old man once told me "clean jointers are good jointers."

E.K Taper
23-10-2010, 01:45 AM
im all for tips and advice but when people ask what number do you box on how do you clean boxes out etc then you shouldnt be taping lets have some proper questions like has anyone tried the new bg flex? ps radio1 in the morning galaxy in the afternoon, save on washing and wear the same pair of pants all week just turn them inside out fast-set starts to rub on your balls after a while though. over to you........!
I notice on another thread your on 80p a m2, bit of a coincidence there.......!!!!!!!

E.K Taper
23-10-2010, 01:52 AM
Does anyone use the Knauf plastic external tape rather than the paper/metal stuff? How about scrim versus paper tapes for interals?
I much prefer the Knauf external stuff, it's just bloody expensive compared to the metal edge stuff. If I've got a job with a bit of room in the price I use the Knauf stuff. I also think scrim provides better long term results for internals. No chance of fluffing, bubbling or lifting. I do them by hand though, so it's not really going to compete with machining them for speed.
Started using it last week as Persimmon Scotland now instruct us to use it. It leaves a good finish and seems to get away with using 1 fast set and 1 velvet but it burns the bloody skin off your fingers when pressing it on! Need to invest in a corner roller for it. Always paper tape for internals though

crack filler
23-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Started using it last week as Persimmon Scotland now instruct us to use it. It leaves a good finish and seems to get away with using 1 fast set and 1 velvet but it burns the bloody skin off your fingers when pressing it on! Need to invest in a corner roller for it. Always paper tape for internals though

I heard but never seen one a tool for creasing that tape, don't laugh but sure it was called a cowbell or something

TonyM
23-10-2010, 09:53 AM
The creaser tool is at 2.11 on this video. I still think its shit tape though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK_kCGRSU68

2buck
25-10-2010, 04:30 AM
radio one all day no pants
odd???????? your name is crack filler yet you wear no pants?????

crack filler
25-10-2010, 05:49 AM
odd???????? your name is crack filler yet you wear no pants?????

It's not my real name that would be silly,
Signed steve dribblebottom

DMC
25-10-2010, 07:25 PM
Started using it last week as Persimmon Scotland now instruct us to use it. It leaves a good finish and seems to get away with using 1 fast set and 1 velvet but it burns the bloody skin off your fingers when pressing it on! Need to invest in a corner roller for it. Always paper tape for internals though

We used that corner tape on a Barratt job in livingston, the rep came out with a box full of tape creasers,t shirts pens etc. Even he said it was s**t. We noticed like yourself that a fat set and a velvet was generally not a bad finish,never had any come back on it.

prjwebb
25-10-2010, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't say it was shit. It's a better finish in my opinion, and you can get over shit boarding a bit better than you can with the paper/metal edge stuff.

TonyM
25-10-2010, 09:54 PM
It is a better finish than standard flex tape, as it doesn't fur up on sanding with it being plastic. My problem with it has been getting the damn stuff to stay where you put it as it has a mind of its own. It springs back and the edges lift.

prjwebb
25-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Yeah, if they aren't sitting quite square they can lift away. I always mix up the joint filler nice and thick for it. At over 15 a roll though I tend not to use it much anymore.