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    Just wondered what way you guys do the coving and to see if theres any possible quicker ways of cutting and applying it.

    i usually scribe one end and leave the other straight for the joint and apply it with gyproc fastset filler but i also apply a pva mixture to painted surfaces & plaster walls so the filler bonds correctly.as i think its quicker.

    but i see guys who cut both ends of the coving with mitre boxes and sticking the coving up with tubes or adhesive surely this is more time consuming and also more costly as tubes are expensive?

    whats your view on this?

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    I was taught to scribe it and did so for many years. Recently i've been mitering more, but a lot depends on how square the corners are. I always mitre mid wall joints as I believe that you get a better joint. I mainly use Gyproc cove adhesive to fix it, but do use Easifill occasionally. On skim, I will use a wetter mix and use small head sheradised pins to be sure it stays there. On painted surfaces, I will either scar the surface with a skarsten first or use bonding agent such as Knauf Betokontakt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    I was taught to scribe it and did so for many years. Recently i've been mitering more, but a lot depends on how square the corners are. I always mitre mid wall joints as I believe that you get a better joint. I mainly use Gyproc cove adhesive to fix it, but do use Easifill occasionally. On skim, I will use a wetter mix and use small head sheradised pins to be sure it stays there. On painted surfaces, I will either scar the surface with a skarsten first or use bonding agent such as Knauf Betokontakt.
    ah i see. so do you find the mitering far quicker? what do you use for mitre cuts? just the typical hand saw and mitre box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishlad2k10 View Post
    ah i see. so do you find the mitering far quicker? what do you use for mitre cuts? just the typical hand saw and mitre box?
    I use an Artex mitre box for 5"cove and home made boxes for 4" and larger ornate stuff. I think mitering is slightly quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    I use an Artex mitre box for 5"cove and home made boxes for 4" and larger ornate stuff. I think mitering is slightly quicker.
    i would think the mitering would be alot quicker but i completely agree with what you said about corners being off. especially on these jobs where the joiners are on piece work and just slap the place together. i find them the worst jobs to do.

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    I mitre the corners, using a yellow mitre box from B&Q about 13, does the job. I generally just butt join the mid wall joints but depending who your working for, they may insist on mitring. Fast set all the way for me, but always PVA new plaster and painted areas. Used cove adhesive on a job last year and thought it was a bit tougher to work with
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    ive noticed that with cove adhesive before aswell some of its just difficult and not as good got one readymix and it was as dry as a camel shit in the dessert i just tend to stick to what i was taught the way i know it cant fail =] i usually just but joint the midway joints aswell baisically cause i can no1 questions it and after a skim of readymix filler it cant be seen so its a win =]

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    I've always used the Gyproc adhesive. You've got a good hour and a half per mix, and it's nice and fine for finishing.

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    Each to their own i suppose, Tony. I always cove the full room then scrape off the excess then brush clean. If I do this with cove adhesive then its murder to scrape off, i find. And thats only a half hour or so into the mix. Nah, fast set for me.

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    i have to agree with you E.K fast set it is plus atleast if its dry in the 30 mins it can then get hit with a coat of paint dont know how long the cove adhesives take to set but doubt its as rapid as fastset? or as cheap?

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    I used either until I had to remove coving from a flood damaged ceiling. I had to use a groundworkers flat spade to get the cove off that was fixed with gyproc joint filler. Sets hard as nails and sticks good enough for me.
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    i reckon theres not much diffrence between the joint filler and adhesive anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by amestaper View Post
    I used either until I had to remove coving from a flood damaged ceiling. I had to use a groundworkers flat spade to get the cove off that was fixed with gyproc joint filler. Sets hard as nails and sticks good enough for me.
    I bet you were cursing it at the time though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    I bet you were cursing it at the time though!
    A few times LOL. It took longer to completely remove the cove than the entire ceiling but I wasnt complaining as I got paid twice. Probably longer than it did to fit it when I think about it. Before then I would sometimes use pins through the cove to secure but I realised it would take an earthquake measuring about 7 on the richter scale to bring down coving fitted with fast set.
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    Yea gyproc fast set is the way,u wont have the cove land on any1's head after that!!
    Have a look at this coving box i will say its the best u can get,i've tried them all!!! Its a FB13 coving box.

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    I have always used fast set, PVA new plaster and painted surfaces,no problem so far.

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    Watch this fella with the Tapepro cornice head.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tN7Qd5v11c

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    Watch this fella with the Tapepro cornice head.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tN7Qd5v11c

    thats pretty cool like! but notice there plasterboard on the walls...... it has hardly any joints like wtf? massive sheets of plasterboard?

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    What the F**K was he putting the coving up with?
    Hope that wasn't readymix cause it looked very much like it 2 me!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beermonster View Post
    What the F**K was he putting the coving up with?
    Hope that wasn't readymix cause it looked very much like it 2 me!!!!!!!!!!

    dont think its readymix could just be an old bucket hes mixed in but it could be readymix or it could be a bucket of coving adhesive

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