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    They're bloody heavy!

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    Man up ya wuss


    What do you reckon they weigh Tony, same as a 15mm soundbloc or heavier?
    Two man operation maybe

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    Definately more than soundblock. Started a large bungalow today after eventually getting the tapered edge boards delivered. It's probably 20% stud and 80% D&D. Was using the collated Fermacell screws (18 a box). Got another boarder helping and glad that I have. It is a 2 man operation. Initially I priced for normal board, then Megadeco, then the client saw Fermacell and wanted that because of the hardness and the fact that it will take a screw without a plug/fixing. So it went from 3.60 to 12 a board. Had to go off and buy a new handsaw to cut it, but by lunchtime that was shot so was on the phone to the Hilti rep and got a circular saw coming on Monday speed things up a bit. It's a really good board in my opinion. I'm looking forward to jointing it, but the Fermacell jointing materials aren't the most user friendly. The joint filler goes off really quickly if it is mechanically mixed and from memory is quite coarse.

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    you will have to start going gym Tony.i got to double layer 2 big ceilings over the weekend with 15mm soundbloc,not looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jase hag View Post
    you will have to start going gym Tony.i got to double layer 2 big ceilings over the weekend with 15mm soundbloc,not looking forward to it.
    Do you want my hoist mate?


    Just looked it up. The 12.5 boards are 15kg per m2.
    Jase, we put up more than 4 today, so maybe we could get a job with your mate.

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    I'm going to go nuts at Sheffield Insulations tomorrow. I've just checked my invoice and they have charged me 17 a board as opposed to the 12 they quoted me over the phone. I checked this price with them twice and asked for email confirmation and i've not had it. If I ring them tomorrow and they insist that 17 is correct, then I am quitting this game. Incompetent b@stards. Keep your eye on the classifieds for a 10 plate VW Transporter full of boarding and taping tools.

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    What a twattish jointing system. I mix up the filler with the maximum of an inch of water in the bucket, clean the whisk, and by the 3rd or 4th internal, the gear is starting to go off and develop hard bits, rendering it useless. Why would they develop a filler with such a short setting time? Oh, and after 3 or 4 mixes, your bucket is buggered.

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    not having much luck with that system,are you mate.

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    I think you need to forget jointing it and pva & skim it instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    I think you need to forget jointing it and pva & skim it instead.
    We have to joint those boards in all bathrooms for a housing asso, never had any problems using standard jointing products. Why dont you first coat a room and try scraping it off next day, if it wont come away carry on with your own material.

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    I agree its a real good board, we have just come across it for the first time on a new build house ( 4 million) down on the waterfront in Wittering. Really hard and apparently it can get wet for months and still not degrade......they will need it were this house is and the tide comes in!!

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    Hi Tony

    There are a few ways to joint Fermacell boards

    S/E boards -

    Jointstik glue comes in a mastic tube and is run down the edge of the board and the boards are postioned as normal, let the excess squeeze out and then scrape off after 8 hours, fill the screw heads and apply Fine Surface Treatment (FST) to the boards maximum 1mm thick (but like a slurry coat). The FST dries in 45 mins

    Or leave a 3-5mm gap between the boards and fill with the filler then fill the screw heads and FST as above

    T/E boards - Bed the tape and fill the tapered area, fill the screw heads and FST as above

    have a look at http://www.fermacell-drylining.co.uk/videos/partitions from 4 mins on in the 2nd partition video shows the finishing.

    The filler does go off a little quickly so I would suggest hand mixing smaller amounts, I know it's a pain but they are working on a better filler.

    If you need a site visit to go through the boards and finishing give me a shout and I'll get Andy the site guy from Fermacell out for you.

    All - yes the boards are heavier but, you don't need insulation to beat 40dB, 1/2 Fire with no insulaton and you can hang 30kg from a screw into the board and 50kg from a toggle fixing - TV's, cabinets and radiator brackets etc

    hope this helps!
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    I took a fermacell job on about 5 year ago. it was a school, timber framed and all the linings were osd board, then fermancell stapled to it. The fixers used to put about 3oo staples in each board. It was a fkn nightmare to fill , and the gear goes off about 5 minutes aftr mixing. We had the fermacell rep out (waste of time) he didnt have a clue.
    Took it on ourslves to use screws,not staples and easifill 45, the sloppy coating (finish) was watered down and sprayed on(on weekends when no clerk of works was there!) n absoloutly horrible material to work with. Was glad to see the back of it.

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    I took a fermicell job on an iam still having nightmares over it. nothing but trouble from start to finish. hada rep come out an he didnt have a clue. i know were in bad times now an most people cant be choosey but i recemand that u stay away wen u hear fermacell..

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    I think as long as you allow enough money to install and tape the boards, it's a good system. I'm now decorating the bungalow I used this system on and there has been hardly any movement, and the finish is excellent.

    You need at least double your usual labour rate for this system.

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