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    Hi!
    Can anyone tell me how does a flat box works? Is it a must to buy box + handle??
    Why I'm asking?
    I'm in Southest country in South America -Argentina, tango´s and soccer land- and is not only impossible to find drywall tools like banjos, flat boxes, but also really expensive (7x or 8x) and worst, highly possible to your shipping from amazon or some, to be stucked in any burocratic Custom step

    So.. I had the idea of asking a friend who live in USA to bring just the box in his next trip to my country
    (not the handle, that is messy to move in airports) and then try (if it were possible) to improvise a handle by my means

    What I'm asking is (and excuse my ignorance

    ) if the handle play any roll like bringing the mud or something. Think I never saw one (just pictures) and I'm really ignorant of how it works.
    I hope you'll understand my question and easyly can answer it
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    Gracias y da la bienvenida Guijarrero. Welcome to our forum.

    The handle actually plays no role in bringing mud to the box in a standard tool set up, (Apla-Tech may be an exception) that is done by the pump ---> http://www.tapingandjointing.com/for...do=file&id=140

    The handle basically attaches to the box with 2 wingnuts and allows you to work at arms length, reach high places and start and stop where you choose with a brake that restricts the pivot movement for more control. Yes, you should buy a handle. See here for a technical diagram ---> http://www.tapingandjointing.com/for...do=file&id=104

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    Not only you Know Maradona but also that we speak in spanish!! I think Maradona is a hero for Scotish as he gave english funs a bigg headache
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY40__rBvSk

    Thankyou for the quick answer and the box handle diagram.
    But I think I was not clear enough..
    What I'm trying to find if can be home made is the handle..
    Buy the box and then improvise the handle.

    I see it on diagram that what it has in its interior is the conector actioned by some lever (look like a kind of bike brake lever)
    Do you think is it possible to improvise the handle?
    Is the connector plate in the diagram, a part of the box? or the handle?
    I wish I could see a small video showing this parts.. Am I asking for too much?
    I think so!!
    well any data will help
    thank you very much

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    Hi!! I found this 12" handle with no brake and I really apreciate your opinion

    I took the comment from
    http://www.drywalltalk.com/f9/drywal...x-handle-1914/
    noting but good words about it
    So, do you think then I can improvise the no brake handle to use a 10" box?
    Thank you for comments!!!

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    That small one seems ok but wont be much good for high ceilings and may cause muscle strains etc. The connector plate you mention is part of the handle like everything in the schematic. Its well worth the money my friend, a box without a handle is similar to a chocolate fireguard if you understand the analogy. The handle should be cheaper than a box, buy one, you know you want to. You can have an infinite amount of boxes, and one handle will fit them all, especially an extendable one. There are too many moving parts to customize a 'home made' model unless you are a wizard at metalwork.

    Check out this youtube movie for a 3D visualisation of an extendable handle --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOJ4_wjUh6U

    Any interior parts are there to allow it to extend, some such as the older Tapetech model I have are fixed length. There are 3 handles of different sizes which takes up more space and costs more, and all have a rod running down the inside to allow the operator use of a brake.

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    Hi Guijarrero, welcome to the forum! Take amestapers advice matey and splash out on a handle. Surely it cant be THAT expensive to ship one from America? Well worth it in my opinion!
    I've got one of those 12" handles pictured. Looks good but its only good for cupboards, staircases etc and tight areas where a normal 42" handle wouldnt fit. Good luck!

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    Amstaper, E.K
    Thank you guys!!
    I took your advice! now I have to find the way home

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