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    i always prefer to use gyproc filler (red) then gyproc quicksand.

    just wondered what you guys prefer to work with.

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    i use gyproc filler and gtec smartmix xtra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallpaul View Post
    i always prefer to use gyproc filler (red) then gyproc quicksand.

    just wondered what you guys prefer to work with.
    I was like you until my supplier wanted 23 + vat a bag for Quicksand. Went back to BG Joint Cement, but switching to Smartmix Extra soon.

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    I like Easifill and Lafarge GTec Joint Cement

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    In today's climate the cheapest

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    BG Joint filler (Red) and BG joint cement is hard to beat . Tried Lafarge and Knauf but they're not as good

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    never used smartmix extra! who makes it?

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    Lafarge

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    i tried sheetrock ready mixed jc today what a load of sh@t .. Gyproc filler and joint cement all the way. Whats so special about this smartmix extra then Tony .

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    Quote Originally Posted by grok View Post
    i tried sheetrock ready mixed jc today what a load of sh@t .. Gyproc filler and joint cement all the way. Whats so special about this smartmix extra then Tony .
    It's got guts, unlike most other readymixed lightweight compounds, and it sands easily.

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    Gyproc but to dear
    just orderd some lafarge g-tec trade joint filler, and lafarge g-tec joint cement,
    not used it before but price seems good.

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    I used lafarge filler and cement on a job in the summer and it was ok ruffdiamond. Sands easy peasy too! Gyproc still best though

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    Quote Originally Posted by grok View Post
    i tried sheetrock ready mixed jc today what a load of sh@t .. Gyproc filler and joint cement all the way. Whats so special about this smartmix extra then Tony .
    did u mixed ?


    i use gyproc filler and sheetrock ready mixed but today i find a bag of Quicksand it's dry Quicker but to work with it aaaaaa sh.........
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    Sanded my first house today that I used the Smartmix Extra on. It took approximately half the time it would have taken using BG Joint Cement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallpaul View Post
    i always prefer to use gyproc filler (red) then gyproc quicksand.

    just wondered what you guys prefer to work with.
    usually BG fast set and BG joint cement,but just sanded a house that i had left for about 6 weeks and the heating had been on for weeks,jeez than god for flex sander.
    i had used sheetrock blue top for finishing my flex tapes,i dont like using it through my boxes (no body)but was pleased with finish i got on my flex tapes and it sanded no bother compared to joint cement.
    but overall will stick with BG just not leave it as long before sanding.

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    using easi fill for first coat(curved blade trowel) second coat arrow, with a sollution added when final mixed to eliminate air holes and make the product easier to sand and trowel, can top over internals after leaving them for twnty min after installing even this time of year. the sollution helps the cement to retard slightly making this possible. and at 10.50 a bag the arrow is hard to beat for site work at least. one bag mixes up 30 Lt. only getting 1.70 a meter so price stops me from suppling ready mix or no- coat angle would love to use all the exspensive stuff but cant afford it. this method gives good (in a day completion) results. best i have found... lafarge all set extra is also great, infact all the axtra range is great. joint cement a little more exspensive than arrow and mixes up less... if your three coating and leaving each coat to dry then you can use just about any thing. i dont get the time or the price for this. i would only be working for two hours a day lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by savage View Post
    using easi fill for first coat(curved blade trowel) second coat arrow, with a sollution added when final mixed to eliminate air holes and make the product easier to sand and trowel, can top over internals after leaving them for twnty min after installing even this time of year. the sollution helps the cement to retard slightly making this possible. and at 10.50 a bag the arrow is hard to beat for site work at least. one bag mixes up 30 Lt. only getting 1.70 a meter so price stops me from suppling ready mix or no- coat angle would love to use all the exspensive stuff but cant afford it. this method gives good (in a day completion) results. best i have found... lafarge all set extra is also great, infact all the axtra range is great. joint cement a little more exspensive than arrow and mixes up less... if your three coating and leaving each coat to dry then you can use just about any thing. i dont get the time or the price for this. i would only be working for two hours a day lol
    Easifill takes ages to lose the moisture so no wonder you have to put something in the cement to get rid of air holes. Your joints must take days to dry this time of year before they are ready for sanding. If you were getting 3 a metre, would you do it any differently?

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    no mate the easi fill is not the reason i put a sollution in my cement mix. the holes i reffer too are the ones you can get not just from damp but by leaving too much on. for three pound a meter, well i would just use regular filler and three coat. second and third being joint cement. its the drying time inbetween coats the having to go back days later that stops me from thee coating. have to say with all set extra filler or the easi fill or the sheetrock easy sand 90 i have had no problems with water retention or shrunk back joints. we only have to fill a taper and fill out a angle and sand it back smooth. if this could be done in one coat then there would be nothing wrong with it. people loose sight of the objective in our trade. fill so flush and then sand. simple. as long as it looks good after the heating gets left on for a few months then you know your doing it right. oh for 3 a meter i would never go near metal angle tape again. its crap. one reason people think drywall is crap too. no coat or steel beads much better. when your dong three beds for 550 spending 80 on no coat aint a option.
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    No coat is great stuff but at 40 a box, like you say, you just can't afford to use it.

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    well i cant see why they use metal for the angle tape, its too unreliable. all the brands suffer problem at some point. surly a paper/card/vynil laminate would be cheaper and better. why is no-coat 40 a box. its a piss take. saw some external tape that stuck just like wet and stick internal tape the other day but cant see it working... in the real world maybe in the lab lol. angles are raerly perfect so you need compound behind the tape to allow for this. what do you use tony? tried sticking beads back with that pink grip foam stuff? nice to see lafarge finally coming good with the extra range, their stuff has been crap for the last 15 years... tried the angle tape? thin and crap... arrow angle tape is the best of a bag bunch and 7 a roll is not too bad a price. loving the sheetrock paper tape, just need them to sort out our compliance issues so we can go back to using what we want.

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