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    just doing a job and they insist on using this knauf crap
    my question is, have any of you used their joint cement lately? if so which is better the bagged stuff or the ready mixed tubs??

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    What I've used of it the ready mix was better, but a lot more expensive.

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    I've been using knauf for years on persimmon sites. All their tapes are terrible, the joint fillers terrible but the tubs of easy sand are good, don't like the bags of easy sand tho. Our company found the tubs worked out cheaper than bags. Roughly 15 a tub and 18 a bag.

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    Were switching to knauf as of tomorrow not looking forward to it at all

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    AT I thought you got more from the bag than the bucket, maybe 1/3 or maybe more? Cheaper?
    Definitely agree that the bucket was nicer to use, and sand, would of been happy (er) to of used those

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    Not much more out of a bag at all, wee drop left at bottom of bag after a thick mix. I'm guessing maybe 9 bags to 10 buckets. Cash wise and mixing time wise, it's worthwhile going with the ready mix.

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    The small time i have used this crap,dont use the bag stuff....readymix,no idea,but can't be no worse....

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    Oh by the way ,its called Knafff for a reason......its shit...

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    only used the bag stuff, utter shite! bugger to use and to sand, i have heard the readymix is a bit better but cant comment

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    cheers people, not used this shite for years but as i said its on the spec for this job!
    the filler is comparable to dri-wall adhesive!!!
    not looking forward to using the ames tbh! but onwards and upwards.

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    I tried to post a reply last night Wallpaul, but I'm afraid I went on a rant about this knauf sh!t and fell asleep cos I was p!ssed!
    Anyways, you're right with the filler = dri wall adhesive bit, absolutely terrible stuff to use. I mixed up 2 buckets of BG fast set at a time when 1st coating, but no chance with this crap, its strictly 1 bucket at a time and even then it goes hard around the edges of your pail
    The cement is horrible too. Mix it up thick cos if you leave it overnight it will be like p!ss
    Its also VERY gritty. 12" boxing is a nightmare, there are wee bits of grit which drag all down the wall when boxing its so annoying, cant get a decent coat on it at all. The majority of the scratches do sand out, but as you'll find out yourself its a major ball-ache.
    The tubbed gear aint as bad though, no gritty bits but couldnt seem to get a good enough coat on angles. There's just no guts to it, not enough body in it if you know what I mean. Too fluffy.
    Their slogan on the bags is "Build for the world we live in"
    Well, its a sh!t world if we have to use this stuff
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    Oh, good luck Wallpaul and DMC.
    I hope you've got some whisky in the house lads, you'll fckin need it tomorrow night

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    just put a few bags in the house and use something else. thats what we do. i found knauf is not good enough to 2 coat with but works fine in a 1 filler 2 joint cement system. leaving job to dry befor final coat... can do a good job with anything with that by the book method

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    I tried to post a reply last night Wallpaul, but I'm afraid I went on a rant about this knauf sh!t and fell asleep cos I was p!ssed!
    Anyways, you're right with the filler = dri wall adhesive bit, absolutely terrible stuff to use. I mixed up 2 buckets of BG fast set at a time when 1st coating, but no chance with this crap, its strictly 1 bucket at a time and even then it goes hard around the edges of your pail
    The cement is horrible too. Mix it up thick cos if you leave it overnight it will be like p!ss
    Its also VERY gritty. 12" boxing is a nightmare, there are wee bits of grit which drag all down the wall when boxing its so annoying, cant get a decent coat on it at all. The majority of the scratches do sand out, but as you'll find out yourself its a major ball-ache.
    The tubbed gear aint as bad though, no gritty bits but couldnt seem to get a good enough coat on angles. There's just no guts to it, not enough body in it if you know what I mean. Too fluffy.
    Their slogan on the bags is "Build for the world we live in"
    Well, its a sh!t world if we have to use this stuff
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    Oh, good luck Wallpaul and DMC.
    I hope you've got some whisky in the house lads, you'll fckin need it tomorrow night
    e.k i decided to hand joint this job because of the material. just would not trust thinning it down then running this crap through a box,as you said got no body to it.
    i curved the filler and it still shrunk back like a bitch. think i will leave sanding until i have done the complete floor because of how soft it is.

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    WP_002608.jpg < is the knauf really that much worse than this pish??? also why do these bags say "gtec finish" for bedding tapes and what not? either its finish or its for bedding tapes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishlad2k10 View Post
    WP_002608.jpg < is the knauf really that much worse than this pish??? also why do these bags say "gtec finish" for bedding tapes and what not? either its finish or its for bedding tapes?
    Because before fast set, there was just ames to do the lot, and only paper tape.

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    First week of using knaff, utter shite. Nothing to recommend it. Gritty,hard to sand, just all round god awful. Not looking forward to this long term

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    Bag or ready mix ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishlad2k10 View Post
    WP_002608.jpg < is the knauf really that much worse than this pish??? also why do these bags say "gtec finish" for bedding tapes and what not? either its finish or its for bedding tapes?
    Scottishlad, trust me - its shit. DMC knows how bad it is now.
    Lafarge would be a dream in comparison!
    Steer well clear of Knauf- The Tradesmans Nightmare

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    not only a nightmare to work with,but we had probs with it following the painters roller of the ceilings.

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    What sort of probs big g?
    We had a leak in a house the day before the client was moving in. We let it dry out, I scraped back and re-filled and sanded the ceiling joint and the painter rolled it out. The client had moved in by this time and when the painter rolled on his 2nd coat the knauf came off, wrapped itself round his roller ! How I laughed. should've seen the look on the clients face.....not to mention the agent!
    Dont think the knauf was to blame though, probably the board hadn't dried out properly.

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