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    Which ready mix cement would you recommend ?

    gypsum,knauf or usg

    looking for one that's easy to work with , easy to sand and how do they compare in price to the bag mix,

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    Gyproc and usg are both good to work with. Knauf is only good for throwing in a skip. Not sure about price. But a big timesaver not having to make up filler even that lafarge gtec is good. You hand or machine taping

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    gtec smart mix extra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobietaper View Post
    gtec smart mix extra
    What he said.

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    Haven't tried the Lafarge ready mix but have tried the Gyproc, Knauf and the USG.
    Gyproc for me although the Knauf is very easy to sand but also very easy to fling in the skip. Wasn't too impressed with the USG sheetrock stuff tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    Haven't tried the Lafarge ready mix but have tried the Gyproc, Knauf and the USG.
    Gyproc for me although the Knauf is very easy to sand but also very easy to fling in the skip. Wasn't too impressed with the USG sheetrock stuff tbh

    Hi what was the issue with the sheetrock ready mixed ? did you try the blue or the green?
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    Quote Originally Posted by belmoreboy View Post
    Hi what was the issue with the sheetrock ready mixed ? did you try the blue or the green?

    Personally i don't have a problem with usg blue top, never used green top, and i don't know what everyone has against it, its easy to sand, doesn't shrink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq ames taper View Post
    Personally i don't have a problem with usg blue top, never used green top, and i don't know what everyone has against it, its easy to sand, doesn't shrink.
    Blue top is soft as shit. If you stare at it too hard, it gets damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    Blue top is soft as shit. If you stare at it too hard, it gets damaged.
    never had that problem before, if other trades etc are banging against walls it doesn't matter what your using it will still get damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belmoreboy View Post
    Hi what was the issue with the sheetrock ready mixed ? did you try the blue or the green?
    I've tried both, Belmore, although not through the boxes. I used the blue top to put beads on and it took a full tub to put on a box of bead. Ok, it finishes your beads in two coats but I found it hard work as I didn't want to thin it too much.
    the green top seems to be a bit thicker. Used it in a kitchen extension and just troweled it rather than get the box dirty. Seemed to fall off the hawk easily, the way that decorators' One-Time filler does. Left a good enough job but it was hard work IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    I've tried both, Belmore, although not through the boxes. I used the blue top to put beads on and it took a full tub to put on a box of bead. Ok, it finishes your beads in two coats but I found it hard work as I didn't want to thin it too much.
    the green top seems to be a bit thicker. Used it in a kitchen extension and just troweled it rather than get the box dirty. Seemed to fall off the hawk easily, the way that decorators' One-Time filler does. Left a good enough job but it was hard work IMO

    works great through boxes, bazooka etc, just thin it down a wee bit before you put the pump in, never tried sticking beads on with it i would always use fast set to stick on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq ames taper View Post
    works great through boxes, bazooka etc, just thin it down a wee bit before you put the pump in, never tried sticking beads on with it i would always use fast set to stick on.
    I use fast set too, but when trying this stuff it says on the bucket that it only takes 2 coats to cover beads so thought I'd give it a go. It does only take two coats to cover so I suppose it does what it says on the tin, but it took longer probably than if I'd used the usual format of 1 fast set and 2 cement!
    thinning it a bit would make it easier to work with I suppose but I thought that would reduce the chances of it covering with the two coats. Got some green top left so might thin that down a bit to box a few rrooms .
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    Quote Originally Posted by E.K Taper View Post
    I use fast set too, but when trying this stuff it says on the bucket that it only takes 2 coats to cover beads so thought I'd give it a go. It does only take two coats to cover so I suppose it does what it says on the tin, but it took longer probably than if I'd used the usual format of 1 fast set and 2 cement!
    thinning it a bit would make it easier to work with I suppose but I thought that would reduce the chances of it covering with the two coats. Got some green top left so might thin that down a bit to box a few rrooms .
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    I use green 2 tape with!! Then blue and put a few scoops of green in that!! Makes for some really nice filler 2 work with!
    Dont b shy 2 thin the blue down a bit as it just doesn't want 2 shrink back much!! 2 coats on screws straight out the pail and they 2 perfect! Get away with 1 if u leave them high and u love sanding!!!

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    Just seen that USG is now part of/sold by Knaff, so if Pishsimmons specify Knaff, you can use USG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian S View Post
    Just seen that USG is now part of/sold by Knaff, so if Pishsimmons specify Knaff, you can use USG?
    For my bit,i think you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian S View Post
    Just seen that USG is now part of/sold by Knaff, so if Pishsimmons specify Knaff, you can use USG?
    Yes you can Brian, just need to ensure the agent/ contracts manager understands they're the same outfit.

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    My thoughts confirmed, thank you Gentlemen

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    yes you can this was confirmed a few weeks ago - you will probably start to notice knuaf logo on sheetrock products in the next batch of tubs - please be assured it is STILL sheetrock product in the sheetrock tub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belmoreboy View Post
    yes you can this was confirmed a few weeks ago - you will probably start to notice knuaf logo on sheetrock products in the next batch of tubs - please be assured it is STILL sheetrock product in the sheetrock tub.
    already has the knauf logo on it

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