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    Hi all.

    new on here but a useful tip to save time on taping jobs is to fill tapered boards tapered edges with multi or board finish then Ames them and the screw holes. Easy for me to say I know because I'm a plasterer aswel but if anyone needs advice please ask me... I can advise on plastering basics

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    Hi all.

    new on here but a useful tip to save time on taping jobs is to fill tapered boards tapered edges with multi or board finish then Ames them and the screw holes. Easy for me to say I know because I'm a plasterer aswel but if anyone needs advice please ask me... I can advise on plastering basics
    That might b a good tip for all the fiba users!
    Instead of running fastset use multi for the first coat!

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    I use paper 100% of the time!
    But what's the time u have to work with it before it start's to go off?
    I.e the multi finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beermonster View Post
    I use paper 100% of the time!
    But what's the time u have to work with it before it start's to go off?
    I.e the multi finish.

    Bout an hour pall, easy easy lemon squeeze. If u want it to hang around you can add baking soda

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    Bout an hour pall, easy easy lemon squeeze. If u want it to hang around you can add baking soda
    Would baking soda hold back joint filler ?. Would it give you more working time to allow you use BG joint filler through a pump & 7" box & if so how much would you add per bag ?

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    I put filler through my pump and 7" all the time, mix 3 buckets start the clock and go like hell, I set up my pressure washer first so washing out only takes a few minutes. I also use wondertex filler cos it done set so fast.

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    Cream of tartar is good for holding back setting times, I find it quicker just to skim it using Refina trowels

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassie View Post
    Cream of tartar is good for holding back setting times, I find it quicker just to skim it using Refina trowels
    How much do you put in per bag

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    I use 1 sachet for every Refina bucketful, depends if you're on daywork or price. Sheffield is a grim place with not much work so sometimes I use 2 or 3 sachets in every Refina bucketful if work is quiet and I'm on daywork

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    Sorry to keep asking, but how much more working time does it allow ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drywall guy View Post
    Sorry to keep asking, but how much more working time does it allow ?

    Depends on on a lot of things, it's trial and error really. If your on daywork try 2 sachets in a Refina bucket and see how you get on. If you want to drag the job out more, use 3 etc. I find, ballpark, 1 sachet in are Refina bucket gives u approx 15mins extra time per set

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    I tried joint filler with 7" box today...........absolute crap..........wipe down tares and drags. pity though 3.8m high walls and health and safety make life difficult gggrrrr!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbyc View Post
    I tried joint filler with 7" box today...........absolute crap..........wipe down tares and drags. pity though 3.8m high walls and health and safety make life difficult gggrrrr!!

    Just a a suggestion pall, have u tried joint filler using a Refina superflex trowel, it's the billocks, even better than the Refina plazi. When it comes to cutters, im aRubi man

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    I was using tapetech power assist box because of the height and had wipe down blade on a long pole, as didn't want to have to use scissor lift, and trowel by hand but filler just dries too quick, never used refina though heard good reports always been a marshalton, but that speedskim makes life a lot easier wish it was about when i was younger!

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    There's a guy on the plasterers. Forum lol that thinks he can do 15 bags a day lol. I soon proved him wrong... Some of the idiots their think theirs no such thing as rising damp. How thick Ar they ? How does the damp jump up the wall if it doesn't rise. Lol...

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    Thanks for the PM Crusher, yes the fight training is all free in my gym in Sheffield, just check my web site for details. Re the plastering... Their Ar a few that av a clue on there, a Scottish one and a Irish one. The Irish one is very clued up but is a muppett and puts pis of his dog up all the time.. I wana kill him... But u cud join up and pic his brain to find out

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    Why would you use multi finish? There are specific products for jointing that set quicker than that. Do you think that BG would stand by their joint cement should there be a problem, if they knew there was skim underneath it? Did you just make this up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyM View Post
    Why would you use multi finish? There are specific products for jointing that set quicker than that. Do you think that BG would stand by their joint cement should there be a problem, if they knew there was skim underneath it? Did you just make this up?
    Nows not a good time Tonym , got danny doing my melon in to come back to moderate te tiling section, thinking about it but if messers muck around with pics of dogs what would yew do like ?

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    Glad you said it Tony, no backup at all from manufacturer or supplier using multi finish for taping. Why cut corners using incorrect products, these things usually come back and bite you.
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    I'm with Tony on this one only benefit in using plaster would be on a cost saving on material, i can't see how it can save time.............besides far too many risks involved, sheetrock can and will be thrown off if plaster hasn't dried out..........and not sure how it would sand up, when you've removed your excess plaster there's always a very thin film of what can best be described as dust residue rub your hand over it and you'll see............so not a system i'd be trying................and for the record i'm a time served plasterer with 36 years experience........

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