CITB levy and grants

[rockie robinson]

be carefull how you go about citb grants !!!
just put a couple of my guys through an nvq 2 drylining , got grants for them now the
citb have looked at what wages i have paid out in the year & if you pay out more than 80k
a year in wages the citb want 2.5% back . which means i have to pay 3500 quid back to
the citb . from now on i have to deduct 2.5% every week from the subbies who are working
for us . another legal tax ..

rockie robinson

[amestaper]

Yeah I already know about this act of parliament and once you sign up, you cant get out of this as its a legally binding agreement. Someone I do work with says its a weight around his neck, he pays hundreds of £s a month and gets nothing in return. He would have to fold his business to get out of paying and doesnt take the 2.5% back from his subbies

[Captain perfect]

CITB Who the F**k are they?

No other Industry in this country has a independant TAX on their TRADES.

[TonyM]

If you are paying out over 80k in wages then you should be making enough profit to foot the CITB levy yourself, rather than taking it from your subbies. Rates are shit enough at the moment without making another deduction from payments.

[turrican_007]

If you are paying out over 80k in wages then you should be making enough profit to foot the CITB levy yourself, rather than taking it from your subbies. Rates are shit enough at the moment without making another deduction from payments.

CITB, Retention,tax,fuel,insurance and tooling costs, whats left out of a days money.....

[saleen836]

Unless you have it in writing from your subbies that they are allowing you to deduct the 2.5% then you can't deduct it!

[belmoreboy]

CITB - you can claim loads back from them with regards to training - stationary and a stack of other bits and pieces - it maybe worth contacting them to see what you are entitled to claim back?

I know we have been suprised as to how much of the money paid in can just come winging it's way back to us.

[amestaper]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I've been reading the FPDC magazines September and November editions and theres some well written articles about the CITB being abolished or even privatised.... God help us.

They can be downloaded from the FPDC site here
http://www.fpdc.org/Specialist-Build...-Magazine.aspx

And the response from CITB can be seen here.
http://www.cskills.org/newsandevents...-straight.aspx

PS. Just noticed that the November edition is not available to download yet but keep checking back on their site if you dont get the magazine mailed to you. It's a must read and a big to CITB and Construction Skills.

[E.K Taper]

On a weekly claim from my subby I pay 1.5% of my invoice total to the CITB . Why?? Dont know.
"Its the law" we get told .

[TonyM]

On a weekly claim from my subby I pay 1.5% of my invoice total to the CITB . Why?? Dont know.
"Its the law" we get told .

No it's not. He is passing this on to you because he doesn't want to pay it out of his profit. It is him with the £80k wage bill, and him that can get free courses from the CITB, not you!
If you don't rely on him for work, tell him to f%ckoff. Better still, report him to the CITB.

[E.K Taper]

Thanks Tony I will look into this. He started doin this a couple of years back, saying the CITB had hit him with a massive bill, so he would need to charge us to cover the next bill as we should all be paying it. Myself and the rest of the guys never thought to question it as other firms up here also do it. I will let you know if I have any success ! cheers

[amestaper]

This CITB article was just published. Comments are encouraged, say what you think ladies and gentlemen!

http://www.tapingandjointing.com/for...to-say-goodbye

[belmoreboy]

We've not made a claim for sometime now and this is a real eye opener! and really shows how the more you work to grow your business the harder you can get hit by our good old government - findings like this need to be VERY public and sorted quickly!

[amestaper]

And here's a link to the more critical Part 2. Published with permission of the FPDC

This may be the best ever opportunity to remove the CITB levy on your turnover as the government are looking to make cuts...... Otherwise do nothing, or say nothing about it, and pay for infinity... Its your call guys.

http://www.tapingandjointing.com/for...tructionSkills

[Davie@ATT]

have also paid the 2.5 percent in past when working for some guys it isnt fair that the buck gets past down the line as if aint hard enough to earn. an most of the time these D#cks dont even touch a trowel or box. just another way of screwing us!! fortunatly i dont earn enough at moment to be hit with a bill but still sucks that its past on and on.

[amestaper]

Just a wee update to this old thread.

The FPDC's May edition of the Spec Finish magazine reported that the UK government has decided to stick with the current CITB levy.